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LadyLuck34
06-18-2009, 08:24 PM
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There have been a number of arguments in the past few weeks and even years, as the gaming industry takes steps forward in attempts at innovation and the inclusion of the casual market. Especially since E3 2009, the discussions have expanded more from the regular hardcore vs casual to the more recent controller vs hands free. However, while touched on, the pitting of hands free gaming against the ever popular motion controllers has certainly been lacking.

Many companies have presented us with variations of motion controllers, some failed more than others, but the concept didn’t really hit mainstream until the release of the Nintendo Wii and Nintendo’s brilliant marketing strategy that targeted the non-gamers more than the gamers. Granted, many gamers, myself included, have broken down and bought the system even though we all charge numerous complaints against it. However, the ingenuity of allowing the non-gamers to now effectively game has allowed Nintendo to corner the casual market to a ridiculous extreme. I mean, I pretty much bought the system so I could game with my parents and friends who normally lack the hand-eye coordination and knowledge to play on the other consoles.

Then at E3 as everyone knows, Sony also introduced a new motion controller for their PS3 as a means to appeal to the casual market that Nintendo has been profiting off. Of course, the biggest shock to the gaming population was Microsoft’s display of Project Natal which is our first real look at a hands free system that could really make its way to homes across the world.

As I’ve said, we’ve seen the controller vs hands free and motion controller. Now the real question is which do you prefer: hands free gaming like Project Natal or the motion controllers of Nintendo and Sony?

On one side, Project Natal makes it simple because all you have to do is rely on your body. But seriously, how good are we at that? I admit I’d feel very uncomfortable trying to game without some kind of remote or controller in my hand. Yet there is so much potential to it as I think of the futuristic virtual reality games (from movies) that only require a helmet with a HUD to play.

At the same time, I always get annoyed with my Wii remotes when they don’t accurately reflect my movements, which is a risk for both hands free and motion controllers. Accuracy is hard to do for both systems and makes them a bit riskier than my trusty regular controller. When it comes down to it, until we got some more kick ass technology I really only seeing these systems being effective for casual gaming (for the most part, not totally).

So the final question is, do you want to be the controller?

obsidianchao
06-19-2009, 08:51 AM
Am I the only one who thinks Natal will be a complete EPIC FAIL?

Nobody will buy a 360 because of stupid motion controls. Everyone buys a WII. Microsoft is trying to make some cash on Nintendo's audience. Truthfully, I fear that the future involves all casual gaming systems, and no hardcore stuff.

... Oh my, I just had a terrible nightmare.

LtblueTAIWAN
06-19-2009, 03:29 PM
Okay, first off, the "hardcore" will never die. I don't understand all the Gaming Apocalypse hysteria. The hardcore will always have it's place in the gaming world.

Second I don't think it's an attempt to steal Nitendo's audience. The potential in the casual market is huge and MS would be stupid not to address it. I think MS will find it's niche in the casual market; I think of it this way, a family is considering a gaming console. They have children of varying ages. The 360 and PS3 are great options for them because they can satisfy the desires of both without purchasing two consoles.

To finally answer LadyLucks Q, Yes. I would love to have Project Nutal it is an amazing peice of tech. That being said I wouldn't look to it as my primary mode of gaming. To all those out there that worry the controller will disappear let me calm your mind; the controller will not vanish. We will not be crouching in our living rooms playin a FPS. Game Developers are not that stupid. Having such a mechanic would be horrific nobody wants to that.

FatesHealer
06-20-2009, 12:45 AM
I think I would get the xbox 360 Natal (Mocap really).

If they can solve being able to walk around in a game without having to walk around my house to go places in the game, Natal might be what I'm looking for.
I get iritated when I'm playing in FPS games and I die because my toe, elbow or the top of my head is sticking out with Natal it would fix that.

obsidianchao
06-22-2009, 06:53 AM
Okay, first off, the "hardcore" will never die. I don't understand all the Gaming Apocalypse hysteria. The hardcore will always have it's place in the gaming world.

Second I don't think it's an attempt to steal Nitendo's audience. The potential in the casual market is huge and MS would be stupid not to address it. I think MS will find it's niche in the casual market; I think of it this way, a family is considering a gaming console. They have children of varying ages. The 360 and PS3 are great options for them because they can satisfy the desires of both without purchasing two consoles.

To finally answer LadyLucks Q, Yes. I would love to have Project Nutal it is an amazing peice of tech. That being said I wouldn't look to it as my primary mode of gaming. To all those out there that worry the controller will disappear let me calm your mind; the controller will not vanish. We will not be crouching in our living rooms playin a FPS. Game Developers are not that stupid. Having such a mechanic would be horrific nobody wants to that.

Nobody who is casual enough for the Wii's shovelware as well as it's good games will never consider a 360. Everyone talks about the WII.

Alexaundre
06-24-2009, 03:57 AM
It'd be fine if it was coming out soon, but this is like 3 years away.

tyrone hawk
06-26-2009, 08:01 AM
I think Microsoft and Sony are offering the one option that current Wii owners don't have: a quaility game with better graphics and an improved response time. I have also suffered from the lack of response that the Wii controllers have when I play with my daughter.

OF course, do remember that Natal is including even more stuff than your standard motion controller. There's a lot that developers could use for their games, and Microsoft will show the example when the camera and it's software is rolled out.

I don't know if I would buy it, as my 360 is right now in our bedroom, and there's not enough space to move around, but if I had, I would surely invest on it. Of course, I wouldn't replace my controller at all. Because that's the factor missing from Natal: the feedback. The feeling you get with an arm recoil, the ground preasure while driving or when you fall it's how your mind and body feels your reality level with the game.

BAMBAMBPT
06-30-2009, 01:50 PM
People are looking for the next "Cool" thing. Right now it's the Wii. MS is trying to make $$ here folks. Project Natal will will make some cash and has a place in this niche market.

LtblueTAIWAN
06-30-2009, 02:02 PM
It'd be fine if it was coming out soon, but this is like 3 years away.

Try next year.

a360
07-11-2009, 12:36 PM
This i am interested in!

xxdmanxx
07-15-2009, 09:02 PM
who cares it will be there for you to play if you want if not dont touch it there not forcing you to use it it will work best on what its intended for everything else just gives cranky gamers yet another reason to complain and or bitch . cant blame ms for trying!

LtblueTAIWAN
07-16-2009, 06:12 AM
@dman - High five for common sence!

LadyLuck34
07-16-2009, 07:27 PM
I definitely don't. They want in on that casual market. I just fear them infringing on the more "hardcore" games that would take more damage than benefit (in my opinion) from this system.

Also, some games will fall in between 'casual' and 'hardcore.' It may end up like the Wii balance board where some games require it, versus recommend, and that would be partially depressing for me. I'd prefer not to have that kind of limitation on my gaming (as Microsoft hasn't done that so far). Or even, making a general system requirement would suck.

Goes both ways. But I do agree with the, if you don't like it, don't buy it.